This is a long post to answer a recent comment dated 07/14/07 from Cathryn.
The home we purchased from Champion Genesis was a
modular home constructed (using the term loosely) in the Redman plant located
in Arizona.
It was, although it did not turn out to be that way, supposed
to be built to California code.Part of
the problem, to quote the General Manager of the Arizona plant was, “if we have
13 homes on the line and one of them is a modular, the workers on the line do
not know the difference.”This was an
attempt to explain the difference in materials used in manufactured and modular
homes during construction. However, I do
not believe that statement explains the shoddy workmanship and in fact makes
one think that poor workmanship is applied equally to both product lines.
The Jefferson II was purchased through Modular Home Pro
of Escondido, California.Unlike the house, the foundation
was built to plan specifications by our sub-contractor and in fact was dead on the
mark in every aspect.The owner of
Modular Home Pro recognized early on that the home was fraught with problems
and was not built to code.He pushed
very hard to get Champion Genesis to do something about all the problems to no
avail.Modular Home Pro’s dilemma was
that they needed to sell more Champion Genesis homesto stay
in business and consequently could only send so many letters, make so many phone
calls, before endangering their dealer status with Champion Genesis.In fact, during this same time frame, Modular
Home Pro purchased a Grande model Champion Genesis home to build and sell on
spec.When it arrived and was set on the
foundation, there was a crown in the kitchen floor so severe that the floor had
to be removed, the crown cut out and the floor rebuilt.A third customer’s home built during this
same period had to have most, if not all of the copper plumbing fittings
re-soldered at a cost of more than $2900.All three Champion Genesis modular homes were built at the same plant in
Arizona.
Clearly, Champion Genesis marketing claims to build a great
product with complete onsite inspections throughout the construction
process.If this were in fact true, then
how does one explain the shear number of things missing or poorly constructed
in these three homes.Reading this blog
in detail shows that inspections were, poorly executed, lacking in detail or never performed in the first
place.
Tens of thousands of dollars were spent correcting the
shoddy and incomplete work on the Jefferson II.Weeks passed after a letter detailing some of the more obvious problems was
sent to Champion Genesis by Modular Home Pro.Finally, a first of its kind onsite inspection tour by the Champion
General Manager and his EVPs acknowledged many of the problems in writing and
a statement that they were not a licensed contractor in California and the extent of
the repairs would require a licensed contractor.Modular Home Pro kept Champion Genesis fully informed as to what work
was being done to correct the problems and finish the home to meet code.Finally after several months, Champion
Genesis sent a letter to Modular Home Pro stating they had no intention of paying
for the repairs and too bad about the enormous amount of time lost in the process.Even though early on, Champion Genesis
acknowledged many of the mistakes were made during the factory construction, it was many
months later before Champion Genesis responded, which they finally did by stating
in a letter that they were not responsible.
The Jefferson II is now complete and most all of the
problems have been corrected.It is a beautiful
structure, no thanks to Champion Genesis.
Researching the Champion family of homes shows that
complaints are very common.These are
major complaints from previous purchasers.In the past, Champion managed through tremendous marketing to sell homes
and it was nearly impossible for buyers to find out the truth about Champion
homes.The internet has changed all that
and now potential buyers can avail themselves of the information from existing
owners and previous buyers of Champion products.Shoddy construction did not carry a penalty
for Champion in the past, it does now.Before, Champion would just wait, wear the buyer down by not responding
and not correcting the problems, knowing full well that in the past the buyer
usually got tired, never told anyone else about the problems and would finally go
away, costing Champion Genesis nothing.No
money spent on repairs and no affect on sales. The end result being more income for Champion corporate.
There is no doubt in my mind that Champion believes
that eventually I, like most everyone else, will grow weary, tire and go away.They see no reason to change their way of
doing business, hey, it has worked all these years so why change now.They fail to realize that the market place
has changed and the buyers are better informed and not as easily fooled by the
marketing BS.Well folks, I am not going
away anytime soon, I firmly believe that a handshake is a person’s bond and you
are only as good as your word.It is
important that potential buyers know as much as they possibly can before making
one their decision about which manufactured or modular home to buy.What’s important here is that potential
buyers have a glimpse of the truth, the photos, the entries and the comments
from previous buyers of Champion products.Potential buyers, unlike in the past, can now get the “rest of the story”
and not just the Champion sales pitch.
The key to buying a manufactured or modular home is to
do as Stephanie, who posted a recent comment said, RESEARCH, RESEARCH and RESEARCH.
Finally, Cathryn, take into account the previous entries, comments and photos and DO NOT BUY a Champion Genesis modular home and expose yourself to the Champion NIGHTMARE!
7/26/2007 11:08 PM
TIM L. wrote:
TO MIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH GENESIS AS POSSIBLE, AS WE ARE CONSIDERING GOING WITH THE GENESIS LINE FOR OUR COMPANY. MY EMAIL IS TIMLAMBDIN@MSN.COM. SEND ME AN EMAIL AND I WILL GIVE YOU MY NUMBER. Reply to this
If you have read the blog posts and readers comments from the beginning, you know what I think of Champion Genesis. I am continually surprised at how many customers share the same or similar problems with their Champion products. My understanding, is that while they are trying to improve the building process, they continue to be non-responsive to the customer problems after the sale.
If you want to add to your line, perhaps you should look at Laurel Creek Homes out of Arizona, if you haven't already done so. They recently started building high quality modular homes and they also stress customer service.
I would be happy to talk with you, however you already know my opinion of Champion Genesis and I would just tell you not to offer their line of nightmare homes. Reply to this
2/21/2008 6:58 PM
L J wrote:
We made the horrible mistake of buying the Jefferson II. It's the worst experience, aside from losing our original house to a fire. In my opinion, it is financial, emotional suicide. You can't fix this model. Reply to this
7/27/2007 2:12 PM
B. Harness wrote:
OK, I agree. RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH. But where? Champion Homes isn't going to say anything negative about themselves. And their dealers certainly won't. What other resources are available to the unsuspecting consumer? Reply to this
7/28/2007 3:39 PM
Mike wrote:
Since you have already read the posts and comments on this blog, you have already done enough research to eliminate Champion from your list of choices.
There are several manufacturers that build high quility homes and understand the importance of customer service.
Start by using the internet to determine which homes are available in your area. If the factory is close enough, take the time to tour the facility and ask questions of anyone you encounter, from the sales person leading the tour to the workers on the floor.
Use Google and other search engines to find information regarding the home manufacturers you are interested in and then search using their names combined with "complaints" and "lawsuits." You will be surprised what comes up.
Earlier posts and comments have links to NAHB (National Association of Home Builders) and other modular home sites which provide additional information.
It all takes time, but it is time well spent. Hope this helps.
4/2/2008 6:53 AM
Gary Perry wrote:
It appears that Champion has similar problems on the East Coast. We recently purchased a Champion Summit model 581 modular home built by Champion's Lillington NC plant. It is an example of Champion's poor quality workmanship and lack of quality control. They installed the wrong hall bath. Front door as well as patio door not properly fitted to frame and would not close and and latch. Cabinet drawers that didn't fit or close properly. Frame securing the in cabinet microwave not secured at factory. Screws through cabinets that didn't fasten to anything and were simply left in place. We are not even in the house yet as on-site preparation is still underway. I can only hope that once power and plumbing are hooked up that we don't continue to find other items. Champion may call this a modular home, but the materials used are no better than some medium grade doublewides, just bigger board sizes to qualify for off frame modular and a higher price! If you're looking for a modular home stay away from Champion. Take a close look at the HBS or Commodores with respect to the quality of their cabinet work and other features. Champion should take some lessons from those two manufacturers! Reply to this
5/11/2008 8:55 PM
CJ wrote:
We are also dealing with a nightmare. Ours started with the foundation not being level and then freezing. The guys who set the house were told our house was 64' not 68'. They brought equipment to move a 60' house. We have major structural damage, enough so that a structural engineer said our house is not livable. We had paid for upgraded carpet and learned that we received the standard carpet. Our cabinets aren't square, one side is an inch higher than the other. We purchased the upgraded kitchen with box windows, they aren't square. The model we looked at the dealer was great, wonderful cabinets that were not cheep material. The cabinets in our house are cheep, with cheep thin wood. Nothing in the house is square. It really makes us wonder what kind of people they hire to build the homes. We contacted the dealer and were told this is normal.
Buying a Champion home has made our lives a living nightmare and has left us homeless, because our house is not livable. Reply to this